first time trying deeper/thocky hmx switches and these are, so weird in a good way. deep but keeps a lot of the higher clackier tones too, I think its a great all rounder for anyone who wants too experiment with foams or no foam builds- feels amazing as usual for a hmx switch with minimal ticking, stem wobble and even isnt that sluggish for a thocky switch, doesnt have a mushy or soft bottom out either (tho its softer than yogurt S and other hmx long poles)